Regulation Takes 3
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[0:00:30] Andrew: Hello and welcome to another episode of Regulation Takes. We are here. We have takes. We're ready to go. I'm excited to hear what people are thinking, what their opinions are. I just escaped via an elevator in Arc Raiders. I'm closing that. Guys, you ready to give some spirited takes? Multitasking. Is this Advent takes or normal takes? No, normal takes. This is just a normal ass episode of takes. We've already recorded a holiday takes. I don't think you're a part of that, Gavin. Well, that would explain that. It would. Does anyone want to start? Does anyone feel like they've got a strong opening take that they would like to lead with? Okay. That's a clear no. That is a universal cross report. No, no, no. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it.
[0:01:12] Eric: Are you sure? Because I got a take that I think Nick's going to like. I got, I got one just because Gavin asked if this was Advent or holiday or anything or whatever. But this, again, these are evergreen takes. These are takes that aren't for the holidays. Absolutely. But this one is, this one is holiday themed. Ooh. And that is the holiday theming for most things sucks. I, I hate holiday discord. Fucking cut it out. Stop making it the default. Allow me to opt in if that's the way to do it. But don't put me in spooky unmute mode where every time I hit a goddamn button on the software, I already hate. It's making noises at me. I hate it. It is truly like the holiday theming, not just of like this software, but like sort of when a podcast is like a holiday themed episode and stuff like that. It is, I think, never better than just the thing that I was going to get.
[0:02:13] Eric: Otherwise, the theming on most holiday stuff is all a very plastic, like cellophane wrap over something that just doesn't do anything for me. It was always for me a struggle with like the rooster teeth podcast where it's like, well, what are we doing for the holiday theme? And it's like, I don't who, what are you talking about? Who cares? I hate it.
[0:02:35] Nick: Put a tree on the set.
[0:02:36] Eric: Yeah, it, yes, it was like a lot of that. And then that was like, as far as it's like, that's as far as a lot of that stuff goes. And, and I just don't like theming for software. I don't like theming for shows. I don't like holiday theming for like a lot of this stuff. It's just not, it's not, it's never better. It's never better. I don't like it.
[0:02:53] Andrew: I strongly disagree with half of that. I'm with you on the discord. I'm with you on like tech theming. I love like a TV show holiday special. I'm a big fan of the seasonal themes. I like a little bit of a different and unique spice. A tree house of horrors is maybe the shining example of what that could be. I think those are fun. I think that's a great exception to the rule. I'm trying to think what other, I feel like the office Christmas special, is that canceled or is that one that's liked? I think it might be both. I think it might fall under both categories. Awesome. What other great holiday theme? I mean, the Star Wars one is obviously where it goes. The worst, like that's the worst case scenario. But even that has some level of charm.
[0:03:41] Gavin: I find myself never watching these things live anyway. Like it's always like on demand and it's the middle of April and I'm watching Christmas episode. I just don't.
[0:03:50] Andrew: I feel like Gavin, you live in a country that this is their whole shtick. I feel like, if anything, this is an attack against your culture.
[0:03:58] Gavin: I live in a country? What, you mean, are you talking about England or America?
[0:04:01] Eric: England.
[0:04:02] Gavin: Oh, I don't live there.
[0:04:05] Eric: Wait, wait. No. What the fuck? What is Andrew saying? I don't even know what Andrew's saying.
[0:04:09] Andrew: What I'm saying is that I view you as like a tourist in a sense to America.
[0:04:15] Eric: Oh, the tourist.
[0:04:16] Andrew: Hold on, add it to the nicknames list. Gavin, Gavin lives here. Yeah, but he's not American. He's paying an awful lot of tax for a tourist. Yeah. I mean, that's an unfortunate part of their culture for you. I don't view you as Gavin the American is all I'm saying. When I think of Gavin, I think Gavin the Brit. And when I think of British like BBC shows, they love a Christmas special.
[0:04:41] Gavin: Well, I remember really loving Noel's house party as a kid, the birthplace of Mr. Blobby. But the Christmas episodes, you know, obviously the main show was filmed in Crinkly Bottom and the Christmas episodes were usually on the road and I didn't like them as much.
[0:04:58] Andrew: But I'm going beyond like one because Gavin and Stacey has like a Christmas thing. Isn't it like Doctor Who? I feel like always does like holiday shit.
[0:05:07] Gavin: A Christmas special is a textbook way to end a show in England where I mean, obviously we only have like one or two series of something that it ends on a Christmas special. 14 episodes. Yeah, it's a good way to get everyone together to watch the end of something.
[0:05:21] Andrew: Have you seen the Halloween episode of Dawson's Creek, Eric, before making this take?
[0:05:27] Eric: No.
[0:05:27] Andrew: I feel that's important. It gets real spooky. It gets real spooky. Why? Why would it be?
[0:05:33] Eric: Why would it be important?
[0:05:35] Andrew: It's essential to the show and culture broadly. I think. I don't know.
[0:05:40] Eric: I saw it once on TV as a kid and I thought it was what happens in the Halloween episode of Dawson's Creek.
[0:05:45] Andrew: I go to a haunted house and I think there's like implications of ghosts in that type of thing, but I don't, I don't know. I haven't seen it in such a long time.
[0:05:54] Eric: Wait, you're saying that Dawson's Creek showed that ghosts exist like in their universe?
[0:05:58] Andrew: I think so.
[0:05:59] Eric: I'm pretty sure.
[0:06:00] Andrew: I'm pretty sure that's a thing. It was during the same point in my life in which I was in the film paparazzi, depending on your opinion on how films work, was that same trip. It was just on cable. I wasn't somebody who watched Dawson's Creek. But I was like, oh, there's like ghosts and stuff in Dawson's Creek. This is odd.
[0:06:17] Gavin: Even if you don't enjoy consuming the seasonal stuff around the year, do you not find it's useful for it to like be little anchor points in the year? Like, oh, look at the progress of this year. It's almost over because of all the shit.
[0:06:32] Eric: It's almost over because of all the shit. Yeah, you see Christmas stuff showing up in shops. Hey, you know what? I do think that, but it's almost over because of all the shit is thought to me more like, oh, it's almost over because of all this shit. So it's sort of like the same, but like the other side of the coin. You know what I mean?
[0:06:50] Andrew: It's also really useful if you don't have a calendar. The world just tells you what time it is.
[0:06:55] Eric: Okay. Yeah, I guess so. I don't have that luxury in my life. I don't not have a calendar.
[0:07:02] Gavin: Yeah, you're like Eric Calendar Badour. That is true.
[0:07:06] Eric: I have to constantly. That is like the biggest struggle in my life is the calendar.
[0:07:11] Gavin: Well, I feel like it's irrelevant anyway, Andrew, because just nature lets you know what time of year it is. I'm not out there being like, oh, look at all that tinsel and shit. It must be winter. It's freezing.
[0:07:22] Eric: It got very cold in Austin. You can live in the desert. This is Arizona. I don't think Arizona gives you any indication. I think it absolutely does. I think I think this is coming from someone who's never been to Arizona.
[0:07:35] Andrew: I've been to their airport so many times outside of it. I love Arizona airport. It's so long. Shut up. Like you're back and long. Yeah, it is like my back. Maybe that's why I like it. It's great. I think this is so does it apply to even like music?
[0:07:56] Eric: You hate a holiday album? No, I'm fine. I'm fine with holiday music because it's just that that's to me like its own separate thing. It's not. If there was one. Here's the thing. If it was one album that was regular and there was one Christmas song on it. That to me that to me is how it feels that to me is how it feels with like here's a holiday episode of friends and it's like I get why you're doing it. I don't have to like it and I certainly don't see.
[0:08:24] Andrew: I feel almost like for me the opposite of that where the album is where I'm on board with what you're saying. Just give me another new album. I don't need to hear you sing jingle all the way. I've got 70,000 versions of that right right right right but so I'm not sure how you're disagreeing with what I'm saying. You're saying that you're okay with the Christmas album. I think I'm generally done with Christmas albums unless it's original.
[0:08:46] Gavin: You don't like hearing your favorite artist take on a on a classic Christmas song.
[0:08:50] Andrew: No, I think like I've got enough of my favorite artists that have done that. I think I'm good for now.
[0:08:56] Eric: Yeah, I'm not saying that it needs to be like an album of like of Christmas covers. I'm just saying that like if you're going to make a Christmas album, that's fine. Keep it as an album. It's over there and that's that's okay.
[0:09:06] Andrew: I don't I just feel like that's like a time sink where based on what you're saying, I'm surprised that your perspective isn't like why didn't you just use that time to make another actual album? That's not how I don't think that's how the creative process necessarily works. I'm pretty sure this stuff. I've seen the trailer for Rockstar starring Mark Wahlberg. I'm pretty sure I have a good read. You've never seen the movie? I don't know if I've ever seen the trailer for me. Honest, it was just you just saw the trailer. Yeah, because it was I was doing a joke about Rockstar the thing. I don't I mean, I've probably seen it not in a way that stuck with me. It was more a poster. I always saw it was constantly in the movie theater hallway and it felt like he was in an apocalypse. It just it was a strange poster in my memory.
[0:09:51] Eric: This is a phenomenal episode of regulation takes. I'm learning a lot.
[0:09:56] Andrew: Does he not look like he's in an apocalypse in the Rockstar? Let me look. It's the one where he's yeah. Yeah, he's like walking walking.
[0:10:03] Eric: Yeah, it's him. It's him walking.
[0:10:05] Andrew: This is and I remember looking at it going like, what is this movie? Is it about a rock star or is it about a guy in like the apocalypse? Yeah, it looks like he's in the apocalypse. It looks kind of it does.
[0:10:15] Nick: Yeah, look at the smoke. Yeah, people trying to look at people trying to tear him down. Yeah.
[0:10:19] Gavin: Yeah. As a child, I was very confused. Does anyone ever crowd surf like that? Whoa, standing crowd surfing. He just looks like he's walking on top of their heads. Probably Chris Angel.
[0:10:30] Andrew: I was going to guess.
[0:10:31] Nick: Yeah, that sounds right.
[0:10:32] Eric: You're talking about the mind freak? Yeah, the mind freak probably did it. Wow. The one that I think of like when I think of the standing crowd surf is Iggy Pop from the Stooges. Yeah, I think that's the coolest photo. That's so cool. That's the coolest photo ever. I've never seen it. I think that's so sick. Yeah. It's awesome. Just like the movie rock star. Yeah. Okay. Well, anyway, that's my take. That's how I feel. What an interesting take. Yeah. It just hit me. I had other takes written down and then I unmuted from this sink and I went, I hate this fucking thing. Bothers the hell out of me. That's my take.
[0:11:06] Gavin: I think I just, to tack on to your take there, I just hate live service software. I hate that I can open a piece of software that I opened yesterday and it might be completely different without any option for keeping the old version.
[0:11:20] Andrew: Is this you agreeing with his take or is that your take? No, that's just a little side take. Well, then maybe after the side take, you should lead us with what your take is.
[0:11:30] Gavin: Ooh, the 24 hour clock is not maths. All right. You don't have to do any maths to learn the 24 hour clock. You just have to memorize it. All right. I feel like I've mentioned this before. Americans call it military time. I guess the American military is they use it, but it's just the time. It's a good guess. It's 24 hours in the day, right?
[0:11:53] Andrew: Mm-hmm.
[0:11:54] Gavin: You can separate it. It's two 12s. But don't be like, oh, I can't figure out 1500. I need to subtract 12. It's three o'clock. Don't bother about it. Just make sure in your head that 15 just kind of feels like a three.
[0:12:06] Andrew: Interesting.
[0:12:07] Gavin: 23. Don't need AI to tell them what it is now. Very eleveny of 23 there.
[0:12:12] Andrew: See, I think the issue, though, is like when they ask you to recite the alphabet backwards, you just don't, you haven't thought of it that way. What? I think what you're proposing.
[0:12:20] Gavin: What, like you'd have to memorize it backwards.
[0:12:22] Andrew: Yeah, like you haven't just thought about it. Like, I agree, it's not a big ask, but when you haven't been taught that way and you've been taught an opposing way, I think there's a little bit of a hurdle. I think what you're saying is that they need to institute this as like knowledge. That like when you learn time.
[0:12:37] Gavin: I don't think you need to be taught it either. I think you should just have a few clocks in your life that are always stuck on 24 hours. And then you just start to feel like, oh, it's getting dark out. Oh, feels a little bit 18. That must be six.
[0:12:50] Nick: Why is that the superior time? Well, it tells you what time. You don't have to specify a.m. or p.m.
[0:12:55] Gavin: Yeah.
[0:12:56] Andrew: Is that your entire basis for it, Gavin?
[0:12:58] Gavin: Well, it's just how many hours there are.
[0:13:01] Andrew: Yeah, but your take is essentially that we should get rid of the other form of time. So I'm asking you in that.
[0:13:08] Gavin: I don't think you should get rid of it in terms of how you say it. Like, you don't have to say 1300 hours. You could say one, but just look at the 13 and think one. So do the translation in your head.
[0:13:18] Eric: So your take is just use both? It sounds like it.
[0:13:21] Andrew: Your take is people should be able to use. This feels very personal.
[0:13:24] Gavin: No, I look at I look at the time in 24 hours and I speak it in 12.
[0:13:35] Andrew: OK, but what are you trying to institute here with this take that everyone does that? Is that like typically a take is you're encountering an annoyance or like you have an opinion on how the world should change. I guess what I'm asking is, why do you think it should change that way?
[0:13:50] Gavin: I think it's just because I've lived here for a long time and every time someone sees my phone, they ask me why I'm using military time and I have to inform them. It's just it's just the time. And it's actually quite easy to memorize 12 things.
[0:14:03] Nick: On TV, do they advertise the start times in the 24 hour clock or is it done a.m. p.m.? What do you mean? Sorry. In England. When you're in England, if there's like a oh, tonight it normally in the States would be like 8 p.m.
[0:14:17] Gavin: I think they still say 8 p.m. and stuff. It's England is like it's always been the in between. Like, I feel like it takes from the U.S. and Europe because it's so old. It didn't convert everything to metric. It's like still in stuck in the middle. So you should be able to use both.
[0:14:30] Andrew: Is there a place in the world that only uses the 24 hour clock? Yeah. The military.
[0:14:35] Gavin: Well, yeah. Military. European countries more so.
[0:14:39] Nick: Interesting. Interesting.
[0:14:40] Eric: I I really like this hot take because it's it's nuts and I can't make heads or tails about what it is you want out of this because you keep saying. You want to go 24, but also still say 8 p.m.
[0:14:53] Nick: He wants people to be smarter, I think, is what he's saying.
[0:14:56] Gavin: I just think you should be able to read it without doing maths. I think you should just memorize them together.
[0:15:01] Eric: Why are we using both? I don't. Why both?
[0:15:05] Gavin: I mean, I could use only 24 hours. I just feel like saying 1340 is a weird if you're if you're not in the military that that to me speaking it that way is military time.
[0:15:17] Nick: I went to bed at 23 last night.
[0:15:19] Eric: So you say you want us to use it, but you don't want us to say it. I want you to know it.
[0:15:28] Gavin: I want you to know it so that when you see it, it's not like, oh, are you?
[0:15:32] Eric: Your hot take for this is leave me alone about how I have military time on my phone.
[0:15:37] Nick: Don't ask me about my military time phone.
[0:15:39] Eric: That's that's it.
[0:15:41] Gavin: That's not military time. It is here. It's the time. That's my point, though.
[0:15:47] Andrew: Well, I have a question for you. Why do you use that time on your phone?
[0:15:49] Gavin: So I don't have to figure out if it's AM or PM.
[0:15:53] Andrew: What? I feel like. Yeah. When you're telling me that nature naturally tells you that, I think nature may give you some indication.
[0:16:02] Nick: Does your house have windows?
[0:16:05] Eric: Why do you set your phone this way? I come inside. I lock myself in a dark, desolate room. All I have is my phone telling me, oh, sir, it's 1612 time for dinner.
[0:16:18] Nick: I roll over. I roll over again. Is it 1 a.m.? Is it 1 p.m.? I don't know.
[0:16:23] Gavin: This is a conversation I had with someone recently. Let me flip it on its head then. Okay. You just you would rather only do 12 twice, right? Uh-huh. I don't care. 12 then 12 more.
[0:16:33] Eric: Yeah. Yeah, that's fine.
[0:16:34] Gavin: Doesn't matter. Would you would you be fine with just doing six four times?
[0:16:38] Eric: But we don't.
[0:16:40] Gavin: Well, you seem to not want to count all 24. So would you like it in smaller chunks? Would you like 6 a.m.? 6 p.m.? Oh, and then 6 d.m.? Maybe 6 f.m.?
[0:16:51] Andrew: I think I'd be fine with it if it was like introduced to me as a kid. Dude, it's already 4.30 f.m.? Oh, fuck, man.
[0:16:58] Eric: We got to get out of here.
[0:16:59] Gavin: Like, if you did it like that, you'd be like, why are there so many sixes, right? Why don't we just do it in big chunks? I'm saying don't do it. Do us do it in one big chunk.
[0:17:11] Eric: But you don't want us to say it is the thing that keeps getting you. Is that like you want us to use it, but then don't tell me. You could do whatever you want. I'm saying. It's 2015.
[0:17:24] Gavin: I'm saying it that way is how the military does it, but reading it that way is how most of the world does it.
[0:17:33] Andrew: But is the point of the a.m. p.m. System is that at the peak of a.m. That's like the middle of the day for you. Like that should be when the sun is halfway through. Is that the reason? Well, the sun isn't halfway through. Why is the 12 the cutoff is what I'm saying.
[0:17:49] Gavin: Oh, it's based on ancient shit, isn't it? Is it? Well, I was asked. The sun isn't at its highest point at noon.
[0:17:57] Eric: So I feel like the time.
[0:17:58] Gavin: The time would have to change every single day for that to be true.
[0:18:01] Eric: So if it's 1230 p.m. What time do you want me to say? 1230. That's it.
[0:18:11] Nick: It's 30.
[0:18:14] Eric: I'm not talking about. So at 1230 a.m., what time do I just go, guys, it's 30? It's 0030. It's 30.
[0:18:23] Gavin: I'm not talking about not figuring out what time it is because I can't see outside. I'm looking. I'm talking like, oh, this file name. It says it was made at this time. Blah, blah, blah. To see it written shouldn't be confusing. But you don't have to say it that way.
[0:18:39] Nick: Computer say a.m. or p.m.
[0:18:41] Andrew: See, now I'm fixated on this a.m. or p.m. thing. Why do we decide halfway through? You bring up an interesting point with the six chunks. Why doesn't it go to like 14 a.m. And then the rest p.m.? Why does it have to be 12?
[0:18:53] Eric: We got Andrew considering what time it is in Goof World. I think. Gavin, I like this hot take because it truly it really is a hot take. It's very good. But now I'm worried about your hot take because it sounds like it's got it's got Andrew thinking. And I don't like that.
[0:19:08] Gavin: I feel like it's an interesting hot take because I feel like I've backed myself into a corner that I made. And I'm just ready to fight everyone. And I don't even really know what I'm fighting for. But whenever I whenever I tell people I'm just using normal 24 hour time, they say they don't like it because they don't want to do maths when telling the time. And I'm saying you don't have to just memorize it first. All right.
[0:19:31] Andrew: I still like you to think about it and get back to me on why you decided to set that as your clock to begin with. Outside of your excuse of so you know what a.m. or p.m. is. I want you to dig deep and try to figure out a real reason.
[0:19:43] Gavin: Don't you think the a.m. and p.m. looks a bit ugly on the end of the time?
[0:19:49] Eric: I've never noticed. You know what, Gavin? Yeah, I think it's ugly.
[0:19:53] Andrew: I don't even have an a.m. or p.m. when I look at my clock.
[0:19:55] Nick: My watch has a face on it.
[0:19:57] Andrew: You don't have an a.m. or p.m.? No, it just says 927. I don't know. Could be p.m. Could be a.m. Based on this.
[0:20:04] Nick: I'll bet it says it says p.m. when it flips. Let's see. Let me open. Most of them don't say a.m.
[0:20:09] Andrew: Unlock my phone. I see when it's flipping to new and I see so it wouldn't matter. But even in the drop. It doesn't. I'll let you know. I'll keep you updated. Nick, when we were later, I'll. Yeah. Oh, for me.
[0:20:20] Nick: It's 12 still noon and. Oh, midnight. Yeah. Are you. Wait, wait, wait. Sure.
[0:20:25] Gavin: What are you asking me there?
[0:20:27] Nick: Just making sure it's called the same thing or something. Not noons could do or something like that.
[0:20:32] Andrew: One in the afternoon. Only in Jack Black's household is it known as a noon skin.
[0:20:39] Eric: It's 12 past. It's about a quarter till skidoo if you guys want to get out of here.
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[0:22:28] Andrew: This is something I feel passionate about because I feel as though I was lied to as a child through media. The amount of times I've seen a pie on a windowsill or a picnic basket available for the taking is zero. I've never seen it out in the wild. I think if you're going to have a picnic or you just recently made a pie, it needs to be on your window for at least one hour before you can consume it in a stealable position. I think it should be available to be taken. I want the opportunity to steal somebody's pie illegally, I guess. You want pie thievery. You want pie thievery. I do because I feel like when I see it in the cartoons, when it's like Yogi Bear or whatever, it looks just like a fun activity. And it's a thing that I want to be told happened to somebody. I've never been on the phone with someone and them tell me, you'll never believe what happened today.
[0:23:29] Andrew: I made an apple pie. It was delicious. I was following rules and regulations, typically on top of it. But oh, then my dog did something crazy and I went to the other room, came back, pie gone, pie stolen, lost it.
[0:23:44] Gavin: Do you just want to walk around and see pies on windowsills?
[0:23:47] Andrew: I want to see pies on windowsills. I think it will make the streets themselves smell nicer. It is like a scent-based version of the ice cream truck is the way that I am feeling it. You smell a pie in the air and if you really want to go get it, you can if they're not on top of it.
[0:24:06] Nick: They need to be Pavlov's pie situation.
[0:24:09] Andrew: Exactly.
[0:24:09] Gavin: Do you just like old-timey stuff?
[0:24:12] Andrew: I don't think so.
[0:24:13] Gavin: Do you want to see a pie and then in the next house, you want to see a woman in a frock using a washboard?
[0:24:19] Eric: I don't know what's a frock. She's just hanging laundry on a line out back.
[0:24:29] Andrew: I'm not opposed to it, I guess. I don't know. I'm not like old in a way.
[0:24:34] Nick: Laundry on a line smells real nice, too. I can imagine it does. Andrew, do you have window screens where you live? I do. Yeah. Okay, so in this theoretical world, the person would have to put the pie in the window sill and remove said window screen.
[0:24:52] Andrew: That's an interesting point because when I think of kitchen-based windows, I don't think of them having screens, but they would. Yeah, I guess you got to remove the screen. I think that's a thing you just have to do.
[0:25:05] Gavin: We'll just have everyone's screen has like a steel flap in it.
[0:25:08] Eric: Oh, I mean, especially if this becomes like law, like where you have to do this, there has to be like a pie vent hole for your pie. Yeah, a pie flap. The pie cooling flap.
[0:25:18] Andrew: I don't want to be clear. If you catch them in the act, they're done. They can't try it again that day. That day? That day. They're banned from that day. If you're just like there, you're like, hey, I see you. Then you got to go, okay, you got me. And then that's it. They can't make another attempt that day.
[0:25:34] Nick: People who take apples are scrumpers. What are pie takers called?
[0:25:37] Andrew: Oh, that's interesting. There's a scrumper. Is it like there's a scrumper is like in a pre pie state. You're stealing the pre pie.
[0:25:50] Nick: I like apples is pre pie state. It is. Yeah.
[0:25:54] Eric: It's for pie pie tree. Can they be like pie pinchers? Oh, a pie pinchers. Good. Yeah, I was pinched again. Yeah. Oh, pinched again.
[0:26:05] Gavin: Andrew, if they made a pie. Like say you could someone baked a pie and they found a way to like put a string through it and hang it. Would you hang one in your car as like the air freshener?
[0:26:17] Andrew: Oh, hanging a whole pie. Yeah. Wow. Is it just like a functional pie that I can eat? A functional pie or does it just admit the scent? The smell of pie. Is it like a.
[0:26:30] Nick: Oh, is it real?
[0:26:32] Andrew: Yeah. Yeah.
[0:26:33] Gavin: It's a real pie. But when you eat it, you went, your car won't smell of pie anymore.
[0:26:37] Andrew: No. Well, then my car is just never going to smell a pie. I'm just going to eat that pie. You. I think your take is you just want pie today. I think that's.
[0:26:45] Eric: I mean, that's sort of how it feels.
[0:26:47] Andrew: Honestly, I don't want pie today, but I want to be able to look out my window and see somebody running down the street with a pie that they just pinched a pie. I want to see pie pinchers. I want to read about it in the news. I want there to be a culture of like what pie do you make if you don't want it stolen? Like what is the least popular stolen pie? Maybe a key lime, because I feel like that's tough to steal a key lime pie.
[0:27:12] Eric: Why is that? Why would that be tough to steal?
[0:27:14] Andrew: I just feel like it's very fluid. It's very loose. It's kind of jello. You got the whipped cream on top. Typically, I don't have you had key lime pie or I think you might have made it wrong. No, it's maybe this is a Shirley Temple situation where there is a geographic difference in how put someone put a photo of a key lime pie.
[0:27:36] Gavin: OK, like Canada, a key lime pie is a drink.
[0:27:38] Eric: I don't. There you go. I don't know what you're talking about.
[0:27:43] Andrew: So see the whipped cream that in itself is going to be unstable for movement and that that the key lime part of it is not as solid as it looks. It's kind of a little jello-y. What? If you sprint with a key lime pie. It looks cheese cakey more than jello-y. Yeah, exactly.
[0:28:05] Eric: And I just sent a pumpkin pie. It's like the same thing. Yeah. You know what? You're right. But in my brain, you're wrong. OK, cool. This also sounds right. Yeah. OK, great. Thank you. Awesome.
[0:28:16] Gavin: But Andrew, the key lime pie you've had, say it looked like that Slice Eric posted. Yeah. Would the middle start like drooling out the sides? Huh.
[0:28:27] Andrew: I think it could. Potentially. I think that's a bad pie.
[0:28:31] Eric: That's a wet pie. Yeah, I think that's what Nick is saying too. I think Nick is letting him know that like, I think you've had bad key lime pie. I think so.
[0:28:41] Unidentified: Shit.
[0:28:43] Andrew: Oh no. Well, then I guess, well, no, this opens me up to pinch a key lime.
[0:28:47] Nick: Excellent.
[0:28:48] Gavin: Because I wouldn't before. Well, I still think in a windy situation, you could take some of that whipped cream in the face.
[0:28:54] Andrew: You could. Absolutely. I think any movement, any whipped cream based pie, I think is a lemon meringue. Incredibly dangerous.
[0:29:01] Nick: And on a summer day, you're probably dealing with maybe a bit of that melt that you're thinking of.
[0:29:05] Andrew: Yeah, I guess what I'm really saying is that like, I trust the top of a pie more than just this loosey-goosey pie situation we got with the pumpkin and the key lime.
[0:29:15] Eric: Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Because you're talking about these loose things or whatever, but an apple pie is just pieces of, I don't, I don't understand. There's a shell on the top. There's a crust.
[0:29:24] Nick: He's thinking of the lattice or the shell, yeah.
[0:29:27] Andrew: The shell keeps it all intact. Even a crisp, I feel like, weighs it down.
[0:29:32] Nick: The lid?
[0:29:33] Andrew: Yeah. It's a pile lid. A pile lid for the pinching. I just think life would be better in every way if people, whenever they made a pie, they had to defend it in some capacity.
[0:29:43] Gavin: I think, deep down, if I know a pie has been out on the window for an hour, I'm going to eat it less. I'm thinking there's been like flies on it. Could have been.
[0:29:53] Andrew: Got to get there early.
[0:29:54] Gavin: Maybe people have been looking at it, contemplating theft and drooling in it or something.
[0:29:59] Eric: Got to get there early for what, Andrew? The pie. But if it has to remain on the windowsill for an hour, oh, you're saying get there early to steal it. Yeah, so you don't have to worry about the flies.
[0:30:10] Gavin: Get where early? Their window. Wherever there's pie. Whose window?
[0:30:15] Andrew: It could, you know what, Gavin? You could steal your friend's pies. Have you thought about that?
[0:30:20] Gavin: So I've just got to be looking at their window and-
[0:30:23] Andrew: No, no, no, no, no, I'm going to give you, pretend you're calling me right now. Ring, ring.
[0:30:28] Unidentified: Oh, hey. Hi, Andrew. Hey, hey, Gavin.
[0:30:31] Gavin: How are you?
[0:30:32] Unidentified: Uh, a little bit of a tough day.
[0:30:35] Gavin: Oh, yeah? Sorry to say that.
[0:30:37] Andrew: I was going to make a key lime pie, but I'm out of key limes, so I'm thinking I might go pumpkin, but I don't know how to do that. But I do have Cosmic Crisp apples, so maybe I'll make an apple pie. You know what? Today's actually not bad. I'm going to make an apple pie later. Oh, thanks for the information. Okay. Why were you calling me? Is everything okay with you?
[0:31:01] Gavin: I was wondering if you wanted to play Ark Raiders. Oh, I'd love to. Sounds good. I don't know why you started talking to me about pie, to be honest, because I called you, so I was just sort of waiting that out.
[0:31:10] Andrew: You asked me how I was doing, and I said I wasn't doing well, and it was because I was going to make a key lime pie. I feel like, you know what, you don't really listen to me, Gavin.
[0:31:18] Gavin: I feel like. I listened to it, and I was befuddled by it.
[0:31:23] Andrew: You called me.
[0:31:25] Gavin: Well, yeah, I was calling about Ark Raiders.
[0:31:27] Andrew: So now, see, this is where Gavin, if he wanted to, could be devious, and when I go to play Ark Raiders, he's just waiting outside, he set up the trap, he's ready to go, and I can't even be mad at it. My point is, you can learn about pies, just in conversation.
[0:31:43] Gavin: I should learn about pies.
[0:31:45] Andrew: Yeah, absolutely. Are you checking on people?
[0:31:47] Gavin: I learned about pies, yeah.
[0:31:49] Eric: Interesting. It was pretty good I learned.
[0:31:50] Andrew: Yeah.
[0:31:50] Gavin: I'm trying to look through my contacts and see if I could call anyone and learn about pies right now.
[0:31:55] Andrew: You called Jeff. Well, I don't think you call someone specifically learning about pies, but just in conversation, you may learn, oh, they're baking today. Oh, what's your bacon? A pie, perhaps? Hey, what's your bacon? A pie, perhaps. Those are, no. Well, now that you mention it, I was going to make a key lime pie, but I was out of key lines. I think life would be better in every way. I think any disagreement is insane. Hi, this is Eric. This is Eric.
[0:32:24] Eric: Hi, Eric. Hi, Eric. What are you doing? I'm just hanging out, recording some stuff for work. What are you up to, man? Are you playing some Arc Raiders?
[0:32:33] Gavin: No, I'm just doing podcast stuff and that. I was just wondering if anything was happening today that you should mention on the phone.
[0:32:41] Eric: Now, Gavin, are you trying to get to the bottom of if I'm baking any pies you can steal?
[0:32:47] Unidentified: Ooh.
[0:32:48] Eric: Well, are you? Are you? I will, because we're friends, I will say yes, I'm baking a pie today.
[0:32:56] Gavin: Excellent. I don't know why you felt the need to tell me that. Tell me that. Thank you. Bye. Bye.
[0:33:02] Andrew: Is that kind of how you wanted it? Is your mockery in this, Gavin, that people shouldn't tell people they're baking? I don't understand what you're mocking.
[0:33:13] Gavin: I was, I did that call, assuming that Eric wouldn't ever mention the pie, and I was blown away that he didn't even mention the pie, so I didn't know what to do after that.
[0:33:22] Andrew: But see, I even like the dynamic that you're presenting. I love the idea that there's one person in the friend group that keeps fucking stealing everybody's pies, and they're just like, we can't tell him. We can't tell him.
[0:33:34] Eric: I'm worried about, Gavin's calling me, he must want to get to the pie I'm making. He's checking about the pie. He only calls me when he wants some pie. That's absolutely, yep, absolutely.
[0:33:44] Gavin: I think Eric would be annoyed if one of us took the pie. Oh, I'd be very annoyed. Oh, absolutely.
[0:33:49] Eric: We had this conversation last night, Gavin, about what if I put out a bowl of candy for Halloween, and Nick came to my house and took it all.
[0:33:57] Gavin: Eric was like, I don't, Eric was like, I don't care if like one kid takes all the candy, I put out a candy, and then it's all gone, it's fine. And then I was like, what if Nick took it? And Eric went quiet for like three seconds and was like, I'd be furious if Nick took it.
[0:34:10] Eric: I'd be so upset if I put out this bowl of candy, and Nick came over and just took all the candy.
[0:34:17] Andrew: Now, is it Nick specific, or is it any adult? Nope, Nick.
[0:34:22] Eric: There's just something about Nick coming to my house to be like, and I've taken your candy now.
[0:34:28] Gavin: The scenario was that you've already gone trick-or-treating with Archie, and he's gone to bed, and then you came back full of Eric's candy.
[0:34:34] Eric: Hi, this is Eric. Hey, Eric, are you putting out a bowl of candy this year? You'll never get my candy, and you'll never get my pie, you bastard. But my son.
[0:34:46] Andrew: But we will get his takes. Nick, do you want to tell us your take?
[0:34:50] Nick: I would love to tell you my take. Let's see, which one of these should I lead with? You know, we're on a food kick, so I'll follow you into this. Please. You know, we've been talking a lot about the, I feel like, the fall-off of the french fry. And while it is enjoyable, I find that oftentimes, I don't want to eat all these extra fried pieces of carb-loaded potatoes. They're good, but it's just, it's too much, right? It gives you that heavy feeling. So I think that fast food meals should come with, like, as a combo meal, either a protein box or, like, a substitution option, where you drop the fry and you trade it in for a burger. You can add, like, a dollar for you, too, because I'm not sure what the price is. What? You want a burger with a burger?
[0:35:37] Eric: I knew, as soon as he started, I knew it as soon as he started. What? As soon as he's like, we're dropping fries, I'm like, his side is going to be a second hamburger.
[0:35:49] Nick: There's no way. Well, you can charge an extra dollar to make up the difference if you need to or whatever.
[0:35:53] Andrew: But what is your issue with fries?
[0:35:55] Gavin: Your reasoning is that the fries are unhealthy, so you want a second fast food burger?
[0:36:00] Nick: Sure. It's got protein.
[0:36:03] Gavin: It does have protein.
[0:36:05] Nick: Or a side of chicken nuggets. Oh, chicken fries. Something like that. Chicken fries. They're shaped like fries, but they're chicken. BK makes them.
[0:36:13] Gavin: Yeah.
[0:36:13] Nick: They're good. Yeah. Those are good. They're the only thing at BK that's good.
[0:36:17] Gavin: Yeah. How would you feel if the sweet potato became the standard fry?
[0:36:20] Nick: It's not my favorite, but I would probably like to give it a shot at some fast food restaurants because it is a healthier, well, it's a healthier.
[0:36:27] Andrew: Why are you focused on health at the fast food place?
[0:36:30] Eric: Because Nick is chaotic when it comes to food and he wants to have all of it all the time, but he's incredibly restrictive with himself so he doesn't go overboard, but then it leads you to situations like this where he goes, what if instead of French fries, I got a second hamburger? For instance, my, yeah, go ahead, Gavin.
[0:36:53] Nick: Go ahead.
[0:36:54] Gavin: Okay, what if in every human's neck was like a two-way valve, like a valve that split direct, so the food you wanted went down your esophagus and the food you didn't want just came out the side of your neck and like down your shoulder, would you divert your fries out so you didn't have to digest them, but you want the taste?
[0:37:14] Andrew: No, I don't think I'd go that far. What if you had a spit bucket and you just chewed but didn't eat?
[0:37:20] Nick: Nah, I feel like you're missing the key function of swallowing the food.
[0:37:25] Eric: Swallowing is a nice part of it. Yeah.
[0:37:27] Nick: It is. It is an essential key.
[0:37:29] Eric: It's probably one of my top three favorite parts of it, yeah.
[0:37:32] Nick: That's why chewing gum is like edging to eating.
[0:37:34] Andrew: Jesus Christ. Was that Jeff or was that you? I just remember that was in the past.
[0:37:40] Nick: Oh, was that? Oh, I don't know. That was me separate from Jeff.
[0:37:43] Andrew: No, that was, I think Jeff, I think that's a quote from Kimmy Schmidt, I think.
[0:37:48] Nick: Oh.
[0:37:49] Andrew: I didn't watch it. Neither did I, well, I watched the first season.
[0:37:52] Nick: I watched the first season. Yeah. Look at us.
[0:37:53] Gavin: I don't, if you want to eat it, but I don't understand, okay, I don't get it.
[0:37:58] Nick: Okay, no, go on. It's just a weird mentality thing, I think. And I will say this, fries, often more times, obviously fried, they're called fries. And I feel like as a result, I end up having more stomach aches if I end up eating like a whole thing of fries to go with a burger. That's wild. But two burgers, two sandwiches, not bad.
[0:38:18] Andrew: What?
[0:38:19] Gavin: How can you get that data from that?
[0:38:21] Andrew: Yeah, I don't think, I think the burger might be more of.
[0:38:25] Gavin: Yeah. If you always have the burger, how do you know it's the fries?
[0:38:28] Nick: Because I sometimes get fries. That's how I've known to make the switch to the burger. So you sometimes only get fries with no burger. Yeah, I'll get a burger and fries sometimes, but then now more frequently I'll get like a burger and another sandwich or something, go with it. Then the issue is reduced.
[0:38:44] Andrew: I just feel like the fries are the best part of the meal potentially. Interesting. Depending on the place. It's like obviously fry quality can change dramatically.
[0:38:54] Nick: Oh, certainly. Yeah. And you know, places that have worse fries, like McDonald's probably has the best fries, right? It's like, but at Whataburger, their fries are, yeah.
[0:39:02] Gavin: Can I put out maybe a conspiracy theory?
[0:39:08] Andrew: Okay.
[0:39:08] Gavin: Okay. I think fries are getting colder.
[0:39:12] Andrew: Interesting.
[0:39:13] Gavin: When I was a kid, I swear, I ate way less cold fries. Did you ever have like-
[0:39:20] Eric: This is just by virtue of you getting things delivered versus you going and getting the things.
[0:39:25] Gavin: No, even going there. I just feel like the bottom half of fries is always just stone cold these days.
[0:39:32] Nick: Do you think maybe as a kid you just had a better tolerance for things that were hot to eat and were just eating them more quickly as they were still warm? That's possible.
[0:39:40] Eric: Do you think you got a smaller French fry?
[0:39:42] Gavin: I don't know.
[0:39:43] Andrew: You just brought back- Your mouth's bigger. A memory for me of a child of getting fries so hot, it burnt to eat.
[0:39:51] Gavin: But when was the last time that happened to you?
[0:39:53] Andrew: I was probably seven. There you go.
[0:39:55] Gavin: It's homemade fries. Could be treats to this.
[0:39:57] Andrew: Yeah. When you get them, they're so fresh, they're right out of the deep fryer. You can hit a heat. This is probably not the fries, it's probably the oil at that point.
[0:40:06] Gavin: So not made in your home, or you had a deep fryer?
[0:40:09] Andrew: My grandpa had a deep fryer, so if I was at his place and I had chicken and fries made by them, it's the hottest fry I've ever had. But as I'm saying it out loud, I do think it's probably because the oil wasn't properly fully removed from the fry. I think it's probably a hot oil situation as opposed to a hot potato. Oh, those are some good fries, though. They sound good.
[0:40:33] Nick: And I'm not saying get rid of the fry option here, fellas. I'm just saying add another option in case we want to have a combo meal.
[0:40:38] Gavin: Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I think my ideal scenario would be if I had a Big Mac, right, and then I got maybe a quarter of the amount of fries, but each one was piping hot, I would prefer that over what I get now. I'd be fine with that.
[0:40:53] Nick: The problem is to get a big drink, you got to get a big fry.
[0:40:56] Andrew: Now, is this something that applies to, like, Wendy's already? Do you know? I'm going to test. Wendy's.
[0:41:02] Eric: I don't think Wendy's does. Doesn't Shortstop do it? Or someplace like that? I've never heard of that. Shortstop might. It's, like, a really small place here. I've never been there, but I've heard that you can get, like, instead of fries, you can, like, substitute, like, a hot dog or something as, like, a side.
[0:41:19] Nick: Oh, shit. Hold on. Amanda.
[0:41:22] Eric: What? You got to go. I know we're doing it for lunch. I know we're doing it for lunch.
[0:41:26] Unidentified: All right.
[0:41:26] Andrew: Uh, I'll talk to you guys later. My problem is, like, when you talk about, when you talk about fast food sides and wanting to do this, I think about if I go to, like, a restaurant, they'll have a bunch of side options, but a lot of fast food places don't really have an equivalent to the fry substitute. Now, I understand what you're saying of, like, you want a burger, but I'm just saying, generally speaking, I don't feel like they offer alternatives.
[0:41:52] Gavin: Like, do you want a fast version of restaurant sides? Like, would you want a Big Mac with asparagus?
[0:41:59] Andrew: Ooh. Grilled asparagus? Yeah. Yeah, whatever. But see, this is where Wendy's is the only place I could think of that actually has sides, so I'm going to test right now. I'm on their website. I'm clicking at Dave's Combo. I want a medium.
[0:42:11] Nick: Do you count, like, appetizer things as side, Andrew? Because places like Jack in the Box have, like, jalapeno poppers. That's interesting. Some places have, like, onion rings and things like that. But, like, I'd go with a small order of jalapeno poppers instead of fries.
[0:42:23] Andrew: Okay, so defaults, medium, natural cut fries. I'm going to click the edit button. Small cut. Swap your side. You know what? No, they do give options. You could have a baked potato. You could have chili. Amanda! Apple bites. So you at least have an alternate method of fries for Wendy's, but I see your point. Like, I've never seen, though, get a smaller, like, a kid's burger as a side with your Dave's double.
[0:42:50] Eric: I think the worst part of this hot take that he just laid out is that Jeff would 100% be on his side.
[0:42:56] Nick: Absolutely. He would be.
[0:42:58] Eric: Oh. Yeah. On his asparagus. I have $40 at Wendy's points. Okay. This is, Nick, this is just a hot take so Nick can go get lunch.
[0:43:05] Gavin: No! I was wondering, Nick, if you took away food and sports, what is left of you?
[0:43:11] Nick: I like hiking a lot. Oh. Interesting. Yeah. I like the outdoors, other than those things. If you took away food and sports. Video games are fun. I like those.
[0:43:25] Andrew: I would be so fascinated to see what Gavin was like without the ability to use cameras.
[0:43:30] Nick: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
[0:43:31] Andrew: Yeah. That would be interesting.
[0:43:33] Nick: What would you do?
[0:43:35] Gavin: I'd have to remember things. Get good at telling stories, I guess.
[0:43:40] Nick: Oh, man.
[0:43:41] Eric: Quick, it's 1400. What time is that p.m.? Well, here's the thing that typically happens. This, it's already, here's the thing. It's already 651 FM. This is, we typically do two hot takes. This, I think these takes were so hot that it's one each. I don't even know what to do. Andrew, thoughts?
[0:44:02] Andrew: Yeah. I mean, we are like 45 minutes into this recording, each with one take. Does anyone have speed takes?
[0:44:11] Eric: Uh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Does anyone have a good speed take? Um, I could do a speed take. Oh, here's, here's my speed take. Uh, chips should be good for you. That's it. Oh, I like that. That's good. I don't like healthy chips, though. I don't either, but they should make some that are good. They should make chips that are good for you.
[0:44:28] Andrew: Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm on that. I want there to be good soda that has biotic in it.
[0:44:33] Eric: Oh, it's because we're doing too many prebiotic.
[0:44:36] Andrew: It's just whenever I see, like, a cool-looking new soda, then it'll say biotic in some form on it, and I just go, that sucks. I'm not gonna like that. That's gonna taste terrible. So, in line with yours, nah, I don't like kombucha. I don't like any of that stuff.
[0:44:52] Gavin: Oh, kombucha sucks. Would you like a prebiotic pre-pie drink? What? Would you like some apple juice?
[0:44:59] Andrew: Only at 12 pass could do. Uh, my, my quick take is when you file your taxes, there's a section on it that says, how much do you like sports? One through ten. Uh-huh. And then you circle what sports you like, and then they randomly pick, like, when you get summoned for jury duty. You will get summoned, you have to, you can't be above a six on how into the sports. You can't be lower than a four, can't be higher than, oh, let's bump it to seven. Can't be higher than a seven. You get invited to a game, much like you get summoned for jury duty, and your entire job is to make rulings on controversial calls. I think the casual viewer is more aligned with what the consensus fan thinks of whether that is a catch or not a catch than the rules officials.
[0:45:58] Gavin: So it's like an expert-less decision, like a jury.
[0:46:02] Andrew: Yes. But they, I think, like, if you have, if you like sports, but you're not, like, tied to any team, you don't have a fan, you're like, yeah, they're fine, I enjoy it when I see them. I think that that person would consistently make better rulings, or at least more accepted rulings than the established system that we have. Because, like, you see clips, and it's like, that is so clearly a catch, but by definition of the rule, it's technically not. Just have somebody who doesn't know the rules, and they'll be like, yeah, it's a catch. I can just see that it's a catch.
[0:46:34] Eric: Have somebody who doesn't know the rules.
[0:46:36] Andrew: I think it's important to have someone who doesn't know the rules as a factor in some of the rule decisions. I think they give a better perspective than a letter of the law. And I think it's a fun...
[0:46:50] Gavin: Wait, who thinks a sport is six out of ten, but doesn't know the rules?
[0:46:56] Andrew: 90% of people that watch the NFL.
[0:46:59] Gavin: Wow. Oh, so it's like obscure rules.
[0:47:03] Andrew: Not even obscure rules, Gavin. It's like the system. Like, you can watch the... I am one of these people. I enjoy watching the NFL a lot. I watch every Sunday. I don't know defensive schemes. Is that a rule, though? That's not a rule, though. No, but it's like knowledge of the game. I'm probably actually the worst example, because I did read the NFL rulebook, just out of curiosity. And it was some weird quirks in there. You didn't print it, though, right? Didn't print it, but you can, like, there's nothing. In the rules to stop a team from faking injuries to get timeouts.
[0:47:34] Eric: Yeah, stop a dog from playing football. Yeah.
[0:47:37] Andrew: Oh, that also...
[0:47:37] Gavin: Do you think your computer could handle printing all of hockey law? Oh, yeah.
[0:47:41] Andrew: My new computer absolutely can. Oh, that's right.
[0:47:44] Gavin: That's great. I want a new setup.
[0:47:46] Andrew: But I agree, Eric. I like... We did some bite-sized takes. I don't think we need to do another full round. We got Skidoo time. We got Nick wanting a second burger. Skidoo time. You hate themed stuff. And I think pies should be stolen. Yeah. I think this is a great world. I'm adopting some of these things in the goof world for sure.
[0:48:09] Eric: I know. That's the thing I'm worried about, is that's what you're doing. That makes me nervous.
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[0:48:33] Nick: Don't forget it. Have a great noon Skidoo. Have a great noon Skidoo. And good luck to you.
[0:48:39] Andrew: We will be back with more takes. Goodbye. Bye.
[0:48:43] Eric: Bye. Bye.
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